Weight Watchers Continues To Spew Waste

I probably don’t need to say I think WW’s app for kids is poised to mess up kids’ lives.  That research shows dieting leads to long-term weight gain. Or that disordered eating is often dieting with a different name.

But if you are looking for more info:

Diets don’t work, let’s stop.

Change.org petition is here if you want to sign.

Workplace “Wellness” Programs

Slate has a good article on how “wellness” programs aren’t.  There’s good details on why they tend not to actually improve health. But the money quote is:

Under the ACA, wellness programs are a legal way to shift a significant portion of the cost of premiums onto employees deemed unhealthy. Wellness programs don’t save money by preventing expensive medical claims—and in fact, they might even increase claims costs due to encouraging unnecessary doctors’ visits. But wellness programs can save money if enough employees fail them or opt out.

I’m glad my current employer isn’t doing this sort of thing. I hope it stays that way.

Image courtesy of Rudd image gallery.

QOTD: Workplace Wellness

Much criticism of “employer wellness programs” have been focused on privacy concerns and angering employees.  But now we’re seeing more practical concerns (also known as “does this even work?”).

Which leads me to this quote of the day, directed at CEOs:

Suppose a vendor made you this proposal: “Pay us to take your employees off the job for medical tests that the government specifically says are unnecessary, and then send them to the doctor (at your expense) even though the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) says healthy adults don’t benefit from checkups. We also want you to bribe or even fine employees to drive participation. Despite this adverse morale impact and wasted time and money, we promise you’ll reduce your healthcare spending, mostly because we’ll make up the savings numbers.” […]

Think you’d decline this proposal? If you have a wellness program built around screenings, doctor visits, and “incentives,” you’ve actually already accepted it. Because (in addition to free gym memberships and other possibly worthwhile perks) that’s what wellness is for tens of millions of Americans.

— Al Lewis and Vik Khanna

Gee — let me think.

Some Workplace Wellness Programs Work

I found it surprising too!

A study of over 67,000 people who could join PepsiCo’s “Healthy Living” wellness program found that 7 years of participation in a “disease management” program resulted in a net savings — the cost of the program was less than the money saved by reduced healthcare costs.  These sorts of programs are “aimed at helping people with chronic illnesses stay healthy, by educating them and reminding them to take medication” and “resulted in significant savings”.

Meanwhile, the wellness program’s “lifestyle management offerings, which aim to reduce health risks through programs focusing on weight loss or stress management, resulted in no net savings at all.”

As the NYTimes headline put it, “Study Raises Questions for Employer Wellness Programs.

Researchers estimate that disease management lowered health costs by $136 per member per month, mostly thanks to a 29 percent reduction in hospital admissions. Lifestyle programs, however, had no significant effect on health care costs.


Other analyses have shown cost savings for lifestyle programs — perhaps, researchers said, because they looked at older programs that were introduced when habits like smoking were more prevalent and cholesterol-lowering drugs were just becoming available, so gains from intervention were greater. Another study at the University of Minnesota, with a design similar to the PepsiCo study, also found that savings resulted from disease management programs rather than lifestyle programs.

I note this article is in the “Business” section and focuses on dollars and cents and not the utter failure of weight loss programs or the paternalism inherent in businesses that offer stress management classes while overworking employees.  I also note that a program focused on “educating people with chronic illnesses on their diseases and reminding them to take their medication” sounds a lot like actually treating the chronic illnesses so they don’t get worse.  Heck, the paper’s title? “Managing Manifest Diseases, But Not Health Risks, Saved PepsiCo Money Over Seven Years.”  What a concept!

But yeah: If  you are in a position to discuss a potential “wellness” program with an employer, here’s some research on how weight loss programs don’t save money. May be useful.

The Dose Makes The Poison

[A study], published in 2011, followed 28,800 subjects with high blood pressure aged 55 and older for 4.7 years and analyzed their sodium consumption by urinalysis. The researchers reported that the risks of heart attacks, strokes, congestive heart failure and death from heart disease increased significantly for those consuming more than 7,000 milligrams of sodium a day and for those consuming less than 3,000 milligrams of sodium a day.

Gina Kolata in the NY Times

Wow, it’s almost like the extreme might be the problem.  Sometimes “the dose makes the poison” is worth remembering.

Women standing up against a society [that bastardizes] thin and athletic women

[Discussion of fat hate & discrimination]

OK, I wanted to give people the benefit of the doubt.

When Lesley Kinzel wrote about the Kickstarter campaign to raise money for a to stand up for “thin and athletic women” who are oppressed by society’s expectations, I wondered if:

  1. The author of the Kickstarter campaign thought that using hyperbole about “a society that protects fat culture” would be eye-catching, and,
  2. If the author of the Kickstarter campaign had conflated society’s dislike of visible muscles on women as “pro-fat”.

The photo of the author on Kickstarter definitely shows visible abs definition, and yes, “feminine” usually correlates to “few or no visible muscles”.  Some women do fear gaining visible muscle and avoid weightlifting as a result.  Women bodybuilders are sometimes viewed as “masculine” or “freaky”.

From the Kickstarter description of the project:

Collection of images of women standing up against a society that protects fat culture while bastardizing thin and athletic women.


There are millions of women out there and im sure you know at least one looking for a voice , not from tvs and magazines, not from victorias secret.. but from the ground level , to speak up and tell them that its okay to want to be in better shape.


But.. if it just makes it into the hands of ONE little girl who feels like she has to be overweight to fit in with the current 70% of the overweight population of America, and it gives her the strength to know that being healthy isnt a bad thing.

Then this whole project is worth all the time and effort i can possibly afford to put into it.

…. ah no.

Obese individuals are highly stigmatized and face multiple forms of prejudice and discrimination because of their weight (1,2). The prevalence of weight discrimination in the United States has increased by 66% over the past decade (3), and is comparable to rates of racial discrimination, especially among women (4). Weight bias translates into inequities in employment settings, health-care facilities, and educational institutions, often due to widespread negative stereotypes that overweight and obese persons are lazy, unmotivated, lacking in self-discipline, less competent, noncompliant, and sloppy (2,5,6,7). These stereotypes are prevalent and are rarely challenged in Western society, leaving overweight and obese persons vulnerable to social injustice, unfair treatment, and impaired quality of life as a result of substantial disadvantages and stigma.

— Rebecca M. Puhl and Chelsea A. Heuer writing in “The Stigma of Obesity: A Review and Update” published in Obesity.

Look, I get that nobody’s life is perfect.  There’s a reason the Romneys believed  their college years were a “struggle”.  There’s a problem with how our society regards bodies, especially women’s bodies, as open to public discussion.  But I have trouble believing that a thin, fit woman is going to be less likely to be hired than a fat woman with the same qualifications.  I have trouble believing that a fit, thin woman is going to be told to gain weight to when she goes to the doctor’s. And I certainly don’t buy this belief that women need to be told it’s okay to want to get into better shape when every women’s magazine assumes getting into better shape is every woman’s dream.

Operation de-Dust Mite

In October I noticed I was having more anxiety about the whole “going to the doctor” thing.  I ended up calling the asthma specialist I’d been referred to at least six months previously and going in on Monday.

This was stressful in many ways. I’m freak-folks-the-hell-out fat.  I’ve got the whole mental “You mean it’s asthma, not just that I’m fat and out of shape?” thing going. There’s getting through my first Thanksgiving without my father.  There’s that fall is the most stressful time of year at work.

But I went.  Some of it was new to me, such as being handed a tissue with a length of plastic wrap on top and being asked to blow my nose.  (Ruled out infections.)  Also a lung function test, where I breathed out, in, and out through a measuring device.  As weight can factor into dosing of asthma meds, I did get on the nifty digital scale .. which displayed the ever-useful “ERR”.  Oy.  I did tell the nurse my weight, and she made no comment.  Blood pressure was fine, both in terms of my specific measurement, and that the room I was in had the proper-sized cuff and the tech taking my blood pressure used the large cuff without me needing to request it.  I met with the doc to discuss my history and current symptoms.  We agreed to doing some skin tests to confirm and/or rule out current allergies.  My biggest responses were to dust mites, grasses, and dog dander.  Hence Operation de-Dust Mite, which included encasing our king-sized mattress in a “protector” to keep the dust mites inside it.

Side note: wrestling a king-sized mattress into a giant zippered pillowcase?   Hilarious.  Ended up putting the mattress on its side, propped against the headboard, to get the thing on.

What struck me the most, though, was that the doctor did not blame anything on my weight.  No question that exercise is an asthma trigger for me.  Not “Are you sure you’re just not used to exercise?”  Doc accepted that it’s a trigger, saying something like, “Smoke, exercise, going out in the cold, those are very common.”    I half expected to hear “Exercise will help improve your lung capacity” but there was no mention of exercise or weight loss.  Treatment plan added a few new meds to better control my asthma and reducing overall exposure to allergens, especially in our bedroom.

I’m glad it was a good experience.  I am less thrilled that it was a surprise and not business as usual for me.

Soda Ban?

I’m sorry if this offends anyone, but I don’t necessarily care about New York’s proposal to ban larger-than-16oz-sugary-sodas.  Partly it’s because I’m not affected; I live in Seattle and haven’t even sampled non-diet pop* in years.

I am skeptical that it would make fat people thin, naturally, but I think it would be more likely to affect the budgets of folks who are grabbing lunch or dinner between work shifts than anything else.  Having to buy more drinks will cost more, and water isn’t always free in delis or restaurants.

And that, I think, is what people aren’t realizing.  Preventing people from buying large pop servings isn’t targeted at fat people.  It’s targeted at poor people, at workers, at kids.

*I’ve occasionally had sugar or corn-syrup sweetened pop at parties over the last few decades and ended up with headaches.  I haven’t drunk “real” soda regularly since 1985.  Currently I drink water, diet Pepsi and coffee with half-and-half and Splenda most days.

Proper Treatment

Knowing intellectually that people can die of asthma is a bit scary.  Reading that a friend of a friend died of an asthma attack is another.

Death from asthma is a relatively uncommon event, and most asthma deaths are preventable. It is very rare for a person who is receiving proper treatment to die of asthma.

However, even when it is not life threatening, asthma can be debilitating and frightening. Asthma that is not properly controlled can interfere with school and work, as well as daily activities.
— From “Asthma in Adults” at the University of Maryland Medical Center

Of course, proper treatment is often dependent on affordable medical care.   I carry with me an albuterol inhaler and antihistamines to deal with allergic asthma.  Not everyone can afford them.

Also: some don’t believe they have asthma.  For decades I didn’t believe I had asthma, despite having allergies, because I was fat — I was supposed to breathe hard, right?  Shortness of breath means “obese”, right?  Wrong.   (Misdiagnosis occurs, too.) But getting properly diagnosed means medical practitioners need to look at the symptoms and not the body weight — and having affordable practitioners and treatments available in the first place.

I live in a country with treatments available, and they’re affordable for me because I have a computer science degree.  Other people aren’t so lucky.

What’s Important?

My mother was fat, though she lost weight shortly before she died.  My father, by contrast, was always thin and muscular.  Yes, he drank like the Navy seaman he’d been and smoked 1-2 packs a day, but he was strong and healthy.  He gained some weight when he retired and quit smoking, but not much.  Heck, he’s  lost some in the last few years. Why?

He wasn’t exercising as much.  Turns out he’s anemic.  Why?  Bleeding from a cancerous tumor.  Oh, and he has some short-term memory problems, which means he shouldn’t live alone.

I’ve been spending a fair amount of time in hospitals and nursing homes and doctor’s offices lately.  I keep expecting to hear “Oh, and you should lose weight because ___________” …. but I’m not.

Maybe it’s because I’m not the one who’s sick.

Maybe it’s because the main risk factor for his cancer is smoking, not weight.

Maybe it’s because I don’t have a history of drinking, and he does.

I can say it’s been interesting dealing with the medical profession in a situation where it’s not about my weight.

I can also say this sort of experience can help focus on what’s important to me.  I’ve alluded in the past to not having the world’s best relationship with my parents, but I’m also not willing to just walk away.  Making the time to deal with this has been challenging.  It’s also made me focus on organizing my life to help me stay sane enough to do what needs doing — priorities like

  • The man of the house.
  • Close friends.
  • Work.
  • Eating regularly.
  • Sleep.
  • Exercise.

These are things that help me stay sane and to have the energy to deal with the other stuff.  (Yes, there’s a reason I’ve been posting about managing stress lately.)  Even so, it’s still been getting me down.  About 2 months ago I saw my ARNP with “Hi, here’s what’s going on.”  We determined that yes, I’m having insomnia, anxiety, and depression symptoms.  She started me on ambien (to help me sleep) and celexa (for depression and anxiety).   The ambien helped almost immediately; the celexa, as is usual for SSRIs, took longer to kick in.   I am feeling more able to cope now, which is good.

Has this changed my priorities or my sense of what’s important?  Yes.  And no.  As is common when I’m stressed, I’m more focused on self-care; this has all narrowed my focus, often to just  “what tasks I need to get done today” and “what I need (to take of myself) so I CAN get through today.”   But the things that I most want to do, and that I find most rewarding, haven’t changed.

Medical Insurance Helps People Feel Better!?

On the one hand, it’s good to have actual research backing this up.  On the other hand, it’s insane that this didn’t exist before.  From the NY Times:

When poor people are given medical insurance, they not only find regular doctors and see doctors more often but they also feel better, are less depressed and are better able to maintain financial stability, according to a new, large-scale study that provides the first rigorously controlled assessment of the impact of Medicaid.

In other news, water is wet?  Not quite.

The study became possible because of an unusual situation in Oregon. In 2008, the state wanted to expand its Medicaid program to include more uninsured people but could afford to add only 10,000 to its rolls. Yet nearly 90,000 applied. Oregon decided to select the 10,000 by lottery.

Economists were electrified. Here was their chance to compare those who got insurance with those who were randomly assigned to go without it. No one had ever done anything like that before, in part because it would be considered unethical to devise a study that would explicitly deny some people coverage while giving it to others.

But this situation was perfect for assessing the impact of Medicaid, said Katherine Baicker, professor of health economics at the Harvard School of Public Health. Dr. Baicker and Amy Finkelstein, professor of economics at M.I.T., are the principal investigators for the study.

In good news, Oregon did end up finding the money to insure the other 80,000 people within 2 years.

Things to Read

A review of the book Deadly Spin, which is an inside look at how for-profit insurance companies use PR to make their policies palatable.

From a piece on why the L.A. public schools are not participating in a reality TV show: “Reality TV has a formula. You either have to have drama or create conflict to be successful. We’re not interested in either.”

And this was nicely put:

Conflating fatness with binge eating is no different from conflating anorexia with thinness.  You can’t tell how someone eats from how they look.

On a more humorous note, apparently Han Solo (in carbonite) appeared in many episodes of Firefly.  Which reminds me of this song…

Lyrics are on in this here PDF.

Science doesn’t understand? Or doesn’t ask?

A blog post on how exercise experiments that replicate on men don’t on women ends with the observation:

[W]hen it comes to women, there’s a great deal that sports scientists “just don’t understand.”

As if they’ve tried and tried and tried, but women are somehow outside the realms of understanding.

Which is bullshit.

As the blog post put it:

Scientists know, of course, that women are not men. But they often rely on male subjects exclusively, particularly in the exercise-science realm, where, numerically, fewer female athletes exist to be studied. But when sports scientists recreate classic men-only experiments with distaff subjects, the women often react quite differently.

Science only knows what it studies, and studies repeatedly, with consistent results.  If you don’t study women, you aren’t going to know, and you certainly won’t understand.

Science can’t find the answers when it doesn’t ask the questions.

Things Worth Reading: Epidemics and Safeway’s Wellness Incentives

From ABC Australia comes Australia’s disordered eating epidemic:

[W]e are not in the midst of an obesity epidemic, as it is often claimed. We are in the midst of an epidemic of disordered eating. The solutions prescribed to combat obesity are often the same behaviours we as practitioners are diagnosing in those suffering from eating disorders.

The comments are a mix of good and bad, but don’t read them if you don’t feel up to the crazies.

Meowser kicked in a terrific debunking of the new “epidemic” of childhood type 2 diabetes.

Back in the US, Misleading claims about Safeway wellness incentives blows a few holes in the claims of Safeway CEO Steven Burd that the company’s wellness incentives (reducing insurance premiums for those below a certain BMI, blood pressure measurement, and/or cholesterol measurement) enabled them to keep health costs constant for four years.

A review of Safeway documents and interviews with company officials show the company did not keep health-care costs flat for four years. Those costs did drop in 2006, by 12.5 percent. That was when the company overhauled its benefits, according to Safeway Senior Vice President Ken Shachmut.

The decline had nothing to do with tying employees’ premiums to test results. That element of Safeway’s benefits plan was not implemented until 2009, Shachmut said. […]  Today, costs are slightly higher than in 2005, Shachmut said.

So they cut benefits in 2006, had benefits increase through 2009, and they’re claiming it’s due to the wellness incentives introduced in 2009?   There’s more, a lot more – for example, costs increased more than average during 2009 – you know, the year the incentives were rolled out – and the incentives plan is only available to the 28,000 nonunion office employees, which is a small part of Safeway’s 200,000 workers.

Of course, as Slate noted in The Fat Premium in October,

The fact that significant weight loss is nearly impossible to maintain poses yet another problem for outcome-based wellness plans. It’s a safe bet that any obese person who manages to score the Safeway discount in a given year will be back in the penalty a few years later. That means plan members are incentivized to enter a cycle of yo-yo dieting, which may actually increase their risks of cardiovascular disease (although not all researchers agree on the dangers of weight cycling).

Personally, I think Safeway’s been identifying too much with Catbert.

What would you put into a Fitness for Life class?

Everyone’s talking about Lincoln college requiring students with a BMI of 30 or larger to take a “Fitness for Life” class.

What I’m wondering is, what would you like to see in such a class?  Not what is usually in such classes, or what Lincoln is including — what would rock your socks to see?

Here’s some ideas:


Reading list:


  • Critiquing popular fitness articles & ads
  • Weightlifting and bodyweight strength training
  • Dancing, walking, and other “stealth” aerobics
  • Stretching and Yoga

What do you think?  What would you add?  I’d like to put in a weight-neutral “how to exercise” book but I’m not sure one exists…

Repost: Wellness Prescription

A repost from January, inspired by Fillyjonk’s post quoting Three Men in a Boat.

I got Connie Willis’ comedic time-travel novel To Say Nothing of the Dog from the library (and liked it enough to buy it).  It starts off a little confusing but is pretty funny, and full of golden age mystery fiction references.

It also contains several homages to the 1889 book Three Men in a Boat (To Say Nothing of the  Dog) by Jerome K. Jerome, of which a copy is on Project Gutenberg.  Looking at the first chapter we find the narrator has a touch of Bibliochondria – he believes he has any illness that he reads about.  He takes this to his doctor, who gives him the following prescription:

1 lb. beefsteak, with
1 pt. bitter beer
every 6 hours.
1 ten-mile walk every morning.
1 bed at 11 sharp every night.
And don’t stuff up your head with things you don’t understand.

He reports: “I followed the directions, with the happy result – speaking for myself – that my life was preserved, and is still going on.”

I find myself wondering how realistic that prescription was at the time – and what the current prescription would be.

  • Whole grains, fruits & vegetables every day.
  • Fish twice a week.
  • 1 glass red wine each evening.
  • 1 three-mile walk every morning.
  • 1 bed at 11 sharp every night.
  • And don’t believe everything you read.


Book Review: Ultimate Fitness by Gina Kolata

from the back cover of the paperback edition

from the back cover of the paperback edition

“Exercise is my obsession,” states Gina Kolata on page 3 of her book Ultimate Fitness. Why does Kolata love exercise?   “I discovered that if I work out really hard and for at least forty minutes, I can sometimes reach an almost indescribable state of sheer exhilaration.”   By the end of the book Kolata admits to belonging to three gyms.  The book is nearly a love letter to exercise, blending science and history with memoir into an exploration of exercise and the exercise industry.

Kolata uses Spinning, her current favorite cardio exercise, almost as a case study for much of the book, which can be a weakness.  (Why so much focus on one brand?)  But to my mind the biggest weakness of the book is the actual title:  Ultimate Fitness: The Quest for Truth about Health and Exercise.   Is it an exercise book?  A spiritual book?  Neither.  But this is a book I turn to over and over again.  I go to look up a sample training program and get caught up in the story.

For an overview, I’m typing in the table of contents and adding my own notes (in italics).  Links are to related articles by Kolata.

Less Is More, or Is It? Kolata’s love of Spinning and intense exercise; a 10-person “groundbreaking study” on exercise with a publicist is likely selling something

History Repeats Itself Kenneth Cooper’s book Aerobics; the Greeks’ teaching on exercise; overview of exercise fads of the 1800s+, including Cooper’s attempts to evangelize exercise

How Much Is Enough? Researchers were surprised to find that the biggest fitness gain is when a sedentary person begins a moderate (like walking) program a few days a week (which can also be had in day-to-day life); medical advice through the 60s worried that might exercise enlarged the heart and overstressed cardiac patients; exercise doesn’t always increase health; do healthy people just enjoy exercise more?

Maximum Heart Rates and Fat-Burning Zones Using heart rate as a measure of effort; the (minimal) science behind the much-publicized “target heart rates”; lower heart rates do not burn more body fat; maximum heart rates vary by more than age and conditioning

Training Lore It often IS lore and urban legends, not science; historic training methods;  Kolata’s training plan for the Spinning “Mt Everest” event; attempting a 3-hour Spinning ride without training first; what methods science does support; not everyone gets faster with training

The Athlete’s World Profiles pro cycler and spinning instructor, Josh Taylor,  as a pro (but not household name) athlete

Mount Everest The 4-hour Spinning ride Kolata trained months for with Josh Taylor, and how her training program did make a difference

Is There A Runner’s High? It’s not necessarily endorphins*; it’s not something everyone gets; different people acheive it differently; it’s independent from exercise’s affects on depression

Sculpting the Body Beautiful Weight training to build muscles and shape; a brief history of bodybuilding in the US; bigger muscles aren’t necessarily stronger; how much mass and strength you can build depends on genetics; weightlifting has little to no affect on resting metabolism, because the muscles only use energy if they’re working

The Fitness Business It’s a lucrative business; many certifications, such as ACE physical trainer and Spinning certifications, are more about paying for “study materials” than learning about physiology or safe training methods; American College of Sports Medicine is much more serious; fitness products that are a waste of money

Epilogue: The Truth About Exercise Kolata muses on three types of people who exercise:

  1. Those who want to improve their health, aka following the CDC recommendations;
  2. Those who want broader shoulders or to be thinner, for which more, much more, is needed, and may not be possible; and, finally,
  3. Those who love it.

Kolata closes with a quote from avid swimmer and psychopharmacologist Richard Friedman:

Ah, the truth about exercise? Well, I suspect that exercise is more often a marker of health than its cause—healthy people like to exercise more than unhealthy people to start with.  And the real value of it is not in terms of abstract health benefits like longevity—an extra few hours or maybe months—but because it feels good when you do it or when it’s over.  To hell with Hygeia; the truth lies in pleasure.

Kolata is most known through the fat-o-sphere for her book Rethinking Thin and her science reporting for The New York Times.  Occasionally it’s clear that Ultimate Fitness was written before Rethinking Thin; Kolata assumes her exercising keeps her thinner; she notes that some aspiring fitness instructors do not appear fit (because of course fitness can be determined by appearance alone).   This book is useful to fat acceptance advocates  because many of the myths it debunks (20 minutes of walking a day will make you thin!  Everyone gets bulky with weights!  Everyone gets a runner’s high if they run!) are often pushed as ways to lose weight—and don’t work.

I originally got this from the library—and liked it enough to buy it.

Some related links:

*Writing in 2002, Kolata summarized the research for the Times as well as in the book.  In 2008 she reported on new research which provides more support for the endorphin theory.